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boehner said he wanted to abide by, speaker john boehner has seemed to throw that to the wayside. as i mentioned, supporting this deal himself. as opposed to the mood, it was funny, john boehner, eric cantor, mccarthy, they made this decision not to speak on the house floor about this deal tonight. who did we hear from? from nancy pelosi, taking a victory lap, which i think says a lot about how both sides feel about it. at the end of the day it is about the law of the land, and after all the twists and turns, folks on both sides are breathing a sigh of relief. tomorrow when they wake up, they will know the majority, they know the taxes will not go up. the financial markets i'm going to guess are going to react positively to this deal. there >>> this deal we have in place, while it makes permanent the tax issue that will be taken off the table for a long time, this is just the first of three with the big fights that will occur on capitol hill. the debt limit in early march, a government funding bill ahead of that. there is a question about the automatic spending cuts. the sequester
boehner said he wanted to abide by, speaker john boehner has seemed to throw that to the wayside. as i mentioned, supporting this deal himself. as opposed to the mood, it was funny, john boehner, eric cantor, mccarthy, they made this decision not to speak on the house floor about this deal tonight. who did we hear from? from nancy pelosi, taking a victory lap, which i think says a lot about how both sides feel about it. at the end of the day it is about the law of the land, and after all the...
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when you think of john boehner. republicans talk about him a sort of friendly uncle figure, merlot, a nice tan, whatever. you don't hear that kind of personal or social appreciation for, for eric cantor from people who know him. can you speak to that? >> yeah, who would have thought john boehner would win his primary with 69%. and eric cantor would go down in defeat by 12 points. speaks to the notion even if boehner was perceived to be more of the mod to cantor's conservative figure in the house for a number of years. boehner could still go back home to ohio's 8th district and shake hand in bars and the outside of coffee shops. >> wine bars even. >> cigar bars. and had, maybe, less of an easy time, connecting, cantor did in rural parts of virginia 7. ironically, redistricting, made virginia 7, more rural after the last round of redistricting. >> the idea of being rural and conservative, something many republicans say synonymous with a safe seat. not safe if conservatives don't care as much about your party label as
when you think of john boehner. republicans talk about him a sort of friendly uncle figure, merlot, a nice tan, whatever. you don't hear that kind of personal or social appreciation for, for eric cantor from people who know him. can you speak to that? >> yeah, who would have thought john boehner would win his primary with 69%. and eric cantor would go down in defeat by 12 points. speaks to the notion even if boehner was perceived to be more of the mod to cantor's conservative figure in...
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screw it. >> well, but, and this, boehner, you also got to say this about boehner. lindsey graham won his primary tonight down in south carolina. a more conservative state than -- probably a more conservative state than the virginia district that eric cantor was in, he won his primary in. and john boehner won his primary handily. so there is something to be said for how people campaign and how candidates work. everything you said about his district staff comes back to haunt you. as you and howard dean prove at the dnc when you guys were running the ship over there, local grassroots networks matter a whole lot. >> absolutely. >> in politics. >> well, absolutely. and just the easiest way to take a look at that is how much money was roughly $200 a vote that eric cantor spent versus how much did brat spend? almost nothing. he organized clearly. although the turnout numbers were small, he got out the numbers clearly. he knew what he needed to get out and he got it out. i will poke a little fun at the virginia democratic party. i am glad that they kind of decided that the
screw it. >> well, but, and this, boehner, you also got to say this about boehner. lindsey graham won his primary tonight down in south carolina. a more conservative state than -- probably a more conservative state than the virginia district that eric cantor was in, he won his primary in. and john boehner won his primary handily. so there is something to be said for how people campaign and how candidates work. everything you said about his district staff comes back to haunt you. as you...
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succeed john boehner as speaker of the house. expectation and speculation come to an abrupt sudden end tonight within the last few hours with the shocking new that eric cantor's congressional career has been terminated by a heretofore unknown economics professor in his district, tea party candidate, dave brat. this is an omg day in the news. amazing turn of event. we don't have many days like this in american politicpolitic shocker around every corner to. night is a real one. thank you for joining us. now time for "the last word." >>> i'm ari melber in for lawrence o'donnell. covering breaking news tonight that sent shock waves through the political world, eric cantor, number two republican in the house, member of gop leadership most associated with tea party strategy on the economy and 14-year incumbent, congressman cantor lost his primary to night. the big winner not only dave brat, little known professor who beat cantor, the tea party, anti-immigration activist who powered brat's underfunded campaign. now here are the latest n
succeed john boehner as speaker of the house. expectation and speculation come to an abrupt sudden end tonight within the last few hours with the shocking new that eric cantor's congressional career has been terminated by a heretofore unknown economics professor in his district, tea party candidate, dave brat. this is an omg day in the news. amazing turn of event. we don't have many days like this in american politicpolitic shocker around every corner to. night is a real one. thank you for...
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when you think of john boehner. republicans talk about him a sort of friendly uncle figure, merlot, a nice tan, whatever. you don't hear that kind of personal or social appreciation for, for eric cantor from people who know him. can you speak to that? >> yeah, who would have thought john boehner would win his primary with 69%. and eric cantor would go down in defeat by 12 points. speaks to the notion even if boehner was perceived to be more of the mod to cantor's conservative figure in the house for a number of years. boehner could still go back home to ohio's 8th district and shake hand in bars and the outside of coffee shops. >> wine bars even. >> cigar bars. and had, maybe, less of an easy time, connecting, cantor did in rural parts of virginia 7. ironically, redistricting, made virginia 7, more rural after the last round of redistricting. >> the idea of being rural and conservative, something many republicans say synonymous with a safe seat. tot safe if conservatives don't care as much about your party label as
when you think of john boehner. republicans talk about him a sort of friendly uncle figure, merlot, a nice tan, whatever. you don't hear that kind of personal or social appreciation for, for eric cantor from people who know him. can you speak to that? >> yeah, who would have thought john boehner would win his primary with 69%. and eric cantor would go down in defeat by 12 points. speaks to the notion even if boehner was perceived to be more of the mod to cantor's conservative figure in...
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i look at this as sort of boehner's revenge. there's no doubt that it was part of the plan to deseat him. >> the last man gets the last laugh. thank you. >>> after the brake eric cantor's epic data fail. josh and patricia will discuss the gross mismanagement on the campaign coming up next on "now." show 'em the curve. ♪ it's beautiful. it's more than that... ...it's perfect. introducing curved ultra high definition television from samsung. it says here that a woman's sex drive. increases at the age of 80. helps reduce the risk of heart disease. it seems that 80 is the new 18. grannies, bless your heart, you are bringing sexy back! eat up. keep heart-healthy. live long. for a healthy heart, eat the 100% natural whole grain goodness of post shredded wheat. doctors recommend it. woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate increases ] man: a few inches of water caused all this? [ heart rate increases ] woman #2: but i don't even live near the water. what you don't know about flood insurance may
i look at this as sort of boehner's revenge. there's no doubt that it was part of the plan to deseat him. >> the last man gets the last laugh. thank you. >>> after the brake eric cantor's epic data fail. josh and patricia will discuss the gross mismanagement on the campaign coming up next on "now." show 'em the curve. ♪ it's beautiful. it's more than that... ...it's perfect. introducing curved ultra high definition television from samsung. it says here that a woman's...
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the money was on boehner reti retiring in spring. there was nobody else who was going to have the votes to topple cantor. now it throws it wide open. unless paul ryan wants this thing, and he may be too close to the immigration issue. unless he wants it, there's a huge vacuum for those of us republicans. >> you don't have to look hard for new stories over the next six months. >> thank you, my friend. >>> all right, i want to bring in larry sab adough, director of the center for politics at the university of virginia. whenever anybody thinks virginia politics, we want to know what larry is going to say to explain it. thanks for being with us. >> sure, rachel. >> let me ask you about the seventh district and whether they should have seen this, whether it shouldn't have been such a shock. should eric cantor have been seen as more vulnerable as he was? >> it's a 57% republican district, at least judging by the 2012 presidential election. rirs not overwhelmingly surprising. if i could focus opsomething chuck pointed out, we look at issues
the money was on boehner reti retiring in spring. there was nobody else who was going to have the votes to topple cantor. now it throws it wide open. unless paul ryan wants this thing, and he may be too close to the immigration issue. unless he wants it, there's a huge vacuum for those of us republicans. >> you don't have to look hard for new stories over the next six months. >> thank you, my friend. >>> all right, i want to bring in larry sab adough, director of the center...
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boehner did not say either way. we are also hear iing that as t bill came to them from the senate, he would also be a no. luke russert has been following this throughout the last 24 hours and all the things. you have with you the representative. >> you're a close ally of speaker boehner. what happened in conference today? what was so problematic with this bill? >> the difficulty is it's heavy on tax increases. the spending reductions are basically nonexistent and adds about $600 billion more in spending. >> where do we go from here? you think there will possibly be a vote tonight on an amended bill? >> the overwhelming consensus in the conference was that the leadership should go back, huddle, find an amendment that addressed spending in a responsible way. it's not going to be some amazingly huge package, but a token and symbol that is not the poison pill that does not drive the democrats off the wall. there was discussion about something that the president himself already suggested, to lay don't marker as we move f
boehner did not say either way. we are also hear iing that as t bill came to them from the senate, he would also be a no. luke russert has been following this throughout the last 24 hours and all the things. you have with you the representative. >> you're a close ally of speaker boehner. what happened in conference today? what was so problematic with this bill? >> the difficulty is it's heavy on tax increases. the spending reductions are basically nonexistent and adds about $600...
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the money was on boehner retiring in spring. there was nobody else who was going to have the votes to topple cantor. now it throws it wide open. unless paul ryan wants this thing, and he may be too close to the immigration issue. unless he wants it, there's a huge vacuum for those of us republicans. >> you don't have to look hard for new stories over the next six months. >> thank you, my friend. >>> all right, i want to bring in larry sab adough, director of the center for politics at the university of virginia. whenever anybody thinks virginia politics, we want to know what larry is going to say to explain it. thanks for being with us. >> sure, rachel. >> let me ask you about the seventh district and whether they should have seen this, whether it shouldn't have been such a shock. should eric cantor have been seen as more vulnerable as he was? >> it's a 57% republican district, at least judging by the 2012 presidential election. it's not overwhelmingly surprising. if i could focus on something chuck pointed out, we look at issue
the money was on boehner retiring in spring. there was nobody else who was going to have the votes to topple cantor. now it throws it wide open. unless paul ryan wants this thing, and he may be too close to the immigration issue. unless he wants it, there's a huge vacuum for those of us republicans. >> you don't have to look hard for new stories over the next six months. >> thank you, my friend. >>> all right, i want to bring in larry sab adough, director of the center for...
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couldn't reach boehner. finally boehner's office saying well the speaker will call the president at 5:30 and not before them. >> david when i hear something like that, it makes me wonder. is boehner not able to deliver those that he represents or he is the problem or some combination of both? i always wondered if there is a dichotomy between cantor and boehner that will doom this. >> there is tlit cal po posturing going on. what do republicans want? as much as they can get in spending cuts and no tax hikes. that's the price of getting the debt ceiling raised. they may ultimately get a smaller deal that raises the debt ceiling. maybe you know, boehner seems to -- he denied it there but others have said he wants a shorter term deal. he gets some down pamtsz on spending cuts and comes back over and over again. he wants a grander deal. i don't know how you get to the truth of the matter other than working boem sides and talking to people who are involved. we know for the past two weeks that a grand bargain was a
couldn't reach boehner. finally boehner's office saying well the speaker will call the president at 5:30 and not before them. >> david when i hear something like that, it makes me wonder. is boehner not able to deliver those that he represents or he is the problem or some combination of both? i always wondered if there is a dichotomy between cantor and boehner that will doom this. >> there is tlit cal po posturing going on. what do republicans want? as much as they can get in...
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he was a logical successor to boehner. now it's out of the window. there's a huge leadership vacuum in the republican house. >> steve kornacki, thank you for joining us. we'll have much more on this again, but this, again, stunning political news tonight. washington just starting to react to the news that house majority leader eric cantor has lost his seat in congress in a republican primary challenge from the right. lost a tea party challenger david brat. again, that news confirmed by the a.p. we'll be right back. they're delicious, and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips. is all ready the brand ofstate the year.d berkshire hathaway home services. good to know. you need to see this. show 'em the curve. ♪ do you know what this means? the greater the curvature, the bigger the difference. [sci-fi tractor beam sound] ...sucked me right in... it's beautiful. gotta admit one thing... ...can't beat the view. ♪ introducing the world's first curved ultr
he was a logical successor to boehner. now it's out of the window. there's a huge leadership vacuum in the republican house. >> steve kornacki, thank you for joining us. we'll have much more on this again, but this, again, stunning political news tonight. washington just starting to react to the news that house majority leader eric cantor has lost his seat in congress in a republican primary challenge from the right. lost a tea party challenger david brat. again, that news confirmed by...
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is it boehner? is he on your side? or is he on the side of his cronies in the house who were more concerned about their hectic schedule. fact, they don't care about you wokking folks in america. and they don't care about creating jobs. and that's why they've just been heckling from the stands. they've never been a player, and they proved it big time again tonight. get your cell phones out i want to know what you think. do republicans care about creating jobs for the unemployed? text a for yes, b for no. you can go to our are blog and comment as well. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me now is steve israel of new york. steve, good to have you with us tonight. i find this absolutely amazing. there's going to be some people out there that say president obama caved. i don't see it that way. i think that he has done what every other president has done. i want to come over and talk to the country and i want to talk to the joint session and he's been denied -- >> how do you read this tonight, congress
is it boehner? is he on your side? or is he on the side of his cronies in the house who were more concerned about their hectic schedule. fact, they don't care about you wokking folks in america. and they don't care about creating jobs. and that's why they've just been heckling from the stands. they've never been a player, and they proved it big time again tonight. get your cell phones out i want to know what you think. do republicans care about creating jobs for the unemployed? text a for yes,...
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. >> john boehner got rolled. >> john boehner has had permanent damage done to him. >> john boehner walked past harry reid and said go blank yourself, and then bragged about it. >> does he even want this job anymore? >> one long national nightmare is now finally over. >> the debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling is coming. >> no. >> the sequesters are coming. >> cue the next countdown clock. >> i will not have another debate with this congress. >> house republicans see it as a trump card. >> they should pay the bills they have already racked up. >> while they approve this deal to avert the fiscal cliff. >> last night the house of representatives failed. >> there was no deal to send money to the victims of hurricane sandy. >> lawmakers from new jersey were angry. >> last night it was my party responsible. >> they are leaving this party without help. >> congress. >> congress. >> congress. >> the laughing stock of the country. >> 66 days and counting, shame on you, shame on congress. >> all right, let's get a couple of things straight here, okay? first of all, there is nothing wrong with legislat
. >> john boehner got rolled. >> john boehner has had permanent damage done to him. >> john boehner walked past harry reid and said go blank yourself, and then bragged about it. >> does he even want this job anymore? >> one long national nightmare is now finally over. >> the debt ceiling. >> the debt ceiling is coming. >> no. >> the sequesters are coming. >> cue the next countdown clock. >> i will not have another debate with...
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do they even care if john boehner looks like an idiot? do they precount the votes in that is kevin mccarthy's job. to david's point, you shouldn't be bringing bills to the floor unless you have a count. they couldn't even getting a gri business taken care of. >> it's very true. i'm afraid we don't have enough time for any more laughs. joy reid and david corn, and great thanks to eric cantor. >>> coming up, snap goes the farm bill. it's another questionable moment in the life and times of the great speaker. >> what is happening on the floor today was a demonstration of major amateur hour. they didn't get results, and they put the blame on somebody else. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mother! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly any airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actually use, you never miss the fun. beard grow
do they even care if john boehner looks like an idiot? do they precount the votes in that is kevin mccarthy's job. to david's point, you shouldn't be bringing bills to the floor unless you have a count. they couldn't even getting a gri business taken care of. >> it's very true. i'm afraid we don't have enough time for any more laughs. joy reid and david corn, and great thanks to eric cantor. >>> coming up, snap goes the farm bill. it's another questionable moment in the life and...
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thank you. >> i just spoke with speaker boehner. he's not going to move on immigration. he says he doesn't trust president barack obama. why are you keeping hope alive? isn't it time to say nothing is going to happen, no immigration reform. he has destroyed thousands of families. why not put the pressure on. >> first of all, we understand what this has done to families. we have waited 329 days. we're willing to wait another six weeks. at the end of six weeks if something hasn't been done, there's going to have to be a move made. >> joining us is jorge ramos. mr. ramos, thank you for being with us tonight. >> great to be here. >> that was pretty remarkable interchange between you and the house leader and the senate leader today. what did you make of speaker boehner's response today when he looked at you and explained or at least he said he explained why he is blocking immigration reform. what do you make of his response? >> he's blaming president barack obama and the only person right now, the only person that is blocking immigration reform is speaker boehner. he can brin
thank you. >> i just spoke with speaker boehner. he's not going to move on immigration. he says he doesn't trust president barack obama. why are you keeping hope alive? isn't it time to say nothing is going to happen, no immigration reform. he has destroyed thousands of families. why not put the pressure on. >> first of all, we understand what this has done to families. we have waited 329 days. we're willing to wait another six weeks. at the end of six weeks if something hasn't been...
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the money was on boehner retiring in spring. there was nobody else who was going to have the votes to topple cantor. now it throws it wide open. unless paul ryan wants this thing, and he may be too close to the immigration issue. unless he wants it, there's a huge vacuum for those of us republicans. >> for those of us who very much enjoy reporting on interrepublican chaos, the world just got a loss -- >> i was just going to say, you don't have to look hard for news stories over the next six months. >> thank you, my friend. >>> all right, i want to bring in larry sab adough, director of the center for politics at the university of virginia. whenever anybody thinks virginia politics, we want to know what larry is going to say to explain it. thanks for being with us. >> sure, rachel. >> let me ask you about the seventh district and whether they should have seen this, whether it shouldn't have been such a shock. should eric cantor have been seen as more vulnerable as he was? >> it's a 57% republican district, at least judging by the
the money was on boehner retiring in spring. there was nobody else who was going to have the votes to topple cantor. now it throws it wide open. unless paul ryan wants this thing, and he may be too close to the immigration issue. unless he wants it, there's a huge vacuum for those of us republicans. >> for those of us who very much enjoy reporting on interrepublican chaos, the world just got a loss -- >> i was just going to say, you don't have to look hard for news stories over the...
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boehner got rolled. and john boehner said at one point in his career, not too long ago, that thanltd happen, but the writing was on the wall. at 2:00 in the morning, the night before last, wherever that was, chris, new year's eve, i guess, the night of new year's eve, 98-8 in the senate. they expected this to sweep away all the opposition, and ultimately, that's what happened, but not without a whole lot of drama yesterday. john boehner knew, the day after the election, when he approved in the raeburn room and said he was willing to give on revenues, $800 billion worth, just not by closing loopholes and simplifying a tax code and things of that nature, but not by raising rates. he saw the writing on the wall. everybody knew what the president had campaigned on, on that $250,000 threshold. obviously, the white house, a lot of smart people here knew that boehner had no flexibility. the president hit the road on those campaign-style events. he ultimately gave ground at that income level, now at $450,000, as
boehner got rolled. and john boehner said at one point in his career, not too long ago, that thanltd happen, but the writing was on the wall. at 2:00 in the morning, the night before last, wherever that was, chris, new year's eve, i guess, the night of new year's eve, 98-8 in the senate. they expected this to sweep away all the opposition, and ultimately, that's what happened, but not without a whole lot of drama yesterday. john boehner knew, the day after the election, when he approved in the...
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things about john boehner. i find it uncynically endearing and human about him. i empathize with him because i too am an uncontrollable public cryer. but in terms of how we got to today's tidal wave of chaos in washington, john boehner crying repeatedly and uncontrollably in the presence of pope francis this month ends up being an important part of the story. we'll never know for sure. mr. boehner has given sort of conflicting answers about it. but john boehner apparently was so moved by the visit of pope francis to the capitol this past month that he decided literally right as pope francis was leaving washington, d.c., he says he decided that if he was ever going to get out of this freaking job it was going to be right then. no time like the present, right now. let's do it. and so in fact the day after pope francis left washington, d.c. and john boehner spent that entire day crying in public in the presence of the pope, the very next day john boehner surprised everybody and he quit. he quit one of the most pow
things about john boehner. i find it uncynically endearing and human about him. i empathize with him because i too am an uncontrollable public cryer. but in terms of how we got to today's tidal wave of chaos in washington, john boehner crying repeatedly and uncontrollably in the presence of pope francis this month ends up being an important part of the story. we'll never know for sure. mr. boehner has given sort of conflicting answers about it. but john boehner apparently was so moved by the...
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is speaker boehner imperiled at all by this? >> no. in fact, one of the most under the radar stories today was, i think speaker boehner has ascended. for someone maybe eyeing retirement, now speaker boehner is telling his friends today he plans to run for speaker again this fall. >> wow. >> it's big news that boehner is privately saying that. he wants to stay on. and why is boehner choosing to stay on? he sees it's not going to be too hard for him to do so. with cantor leaving, that's his biggest rival gone. kevin mccarthy is maybe ready to be a congressional leader, but not a national speaker at that level. >> if you could have given truth serum last night to john boehner at 2:00 in the morning, as he sat there working his way through a pack of cigarettes and finishing off some bourbon, what would you have gotten out of him? deep in his heart of hearts, was he happy last night or sad? >> boehner is someone who sometimes surrounds himself with tragedy. i think he was sad last night. he's an institutional man, and i think he was disappo
is speaker boehner imperiled at all by this? >> no. in fact, one of the most under the radar stories today was, i think speaker boehner has ascended. for someone maybe eyeing retirement, now speaker boehner is telling his friends today he plans to run for speaker again this fall. >> wow. >> it's big news that boehner is privately saying that. he wants to stay on. and why is boehner choosing to stay on? he sees it's not going to be too hard for him to do so. with cantor...
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boehner loved the sequester. he said it would be a great way to make sure spending is cut across the board, and that's what the republicans wanted. when the bill was signed, boehner told the country, he told everybody just how much he loved it. >> when you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white house, you know, i got 98% of what i wanted. i'm pretty happy. >> wait a minute now. i thought it was the president's plan. see, folks, the lying just keeps coming. boehner continued his lies in an op-ed today. he said the president got his higher taxes, $600 billion from higher earners and no spending cuts at the end of 2012. well, let's do a little math for the speaker of the house. $1.2 trillion is greater than $600 billion. john boehner should know this. he did the math before. in fact, he was one of 174 republicans in the house of representatives who voted for the budget control act of 2011. those republicans, what did they get? they got $1.2 billion in cuts to set up by the sequester by passing t
boehner loved the sequester. he said it would be a great way to make sure spending is cut across the board, and that's what the republicans wanted. when the bill was signed, boehner told the country, he told everybody just how much he loved it. >> when you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white house, you know, i got 98% of what i wanted. i'm pretty happy. >> wait a minute now. i thought it was the president's plan. see, folks, the lying just keeps coming....
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thank you. >> i just spoke with speaker boehner. he's thnot going to move on immigration. he says he doesn't trust president barack obama. why are you keeping hope alive? isn't it time to say nothing is going to happen, no immigration refo refo reform. he has destroyed thousands of families. why not put the pressure on. >> first of all, we understand what this has done to families. we have waited 329 days. we're willing to wait another six weeks. at the end of six weeks if something hasn't been done, there's going to have to be a move made. >> joining us is jorge ramos. mr. ramos, thank you for being with us tonight. >> great to be here. >> that was pretty remarkable interchange between you and the house leader and the senate leader today. what did you make of speaker boehner's response today when he looked at you and explained or at least he said he explained why he is blocking immigration reform. what do you make of his response? >> he's blaming president barack obama and the only person right now, the only person that is blocking immigration reform is speaker boehner. h
thank you. >> i just spoke with speaker boehner. he's thnot going to move on immigration. he says he doesn't trust president barack obama. why are you keeping hope alive? isn't it time to say nothing is going to happen, no immigration refo refo reform. he has destroyed thousands of families. why not put the pressure on. >> first of all, we understand what this has done to families. we have waited 329 days. we're willing to wait another six weeks. at the end of six weeks if something...
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how far does the president have to go to give boehner something that helps boehner go to his caucus and say let's just do our deal. >> you want someone to be singing "i'll be home for christmas." >> there you go. >> first, it's nice to see you in d.c. >> it's a great pleasure. >> we have this little bubble of optimism in the conventional media the past few days. although they're talking, they're not saying much, there must be progress, but we still have a fundamental divide here. the president says rates have to go up. he doesn't want to trade the debt ceiling for anything. he thinks that should be separate. and boehner put out a proposal saying we'll raise invest knews but we're going to lower rates. won't specify, as you noted earlier. there seems to be in the staff level at least not much progress, any progress, being made. i have to believe the fundamental dynamic is still the same, that boehner is going to have a hard time convincing more than half of his caucus, even half of his caucus, to support something that really gives the president a lot in terms of revenue cuts and doesn't
how far does the president have to go to give boehner something that helps boehner go to his caucus and say let's just do our deal. >> you want someone to be singing "i'll be home for christmas." >> there you go. >> first, it's nice to see you in d.c. >> it's a great pleasure. >> we have this little bubble of optimism in the conventional media the past few days. although they're talking, they're not saying much, there must be progress, but we still have a...
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speaker boehner's approval rating is taking a beating. the top tax rates that is a core issue for republicans, even though we are hearing from more of them, a handful of members in both the house and senate talking about the likely hood that that will in fact happen. the highest earners will pay more. that would likely be the last piece of the puzzle in a negotiation. i'm hearing from people in both sides say expect this to keep going and a likelihood if a deal is achievable it will happen close to the deadline seems to be the thinking. they are telling everybody to be prepared to be here during the holidays. we are hearing that as well. there is sort of a resignation that it's going to be a long process. >> thank you, kelly. great le appreciate it. the national political reporter for the atlantic democratic strategist keith bicycle in. amy stoddard, associate editor for the hill paper. thank you all for joining us. let me start off with you. we are going to show our audience later the headlines or a couple of the headlines out there. if
speaker boehner's approval rating is taking a beating. the top tax rates that is a core issue for republicans, even though we are hearing from more of them, a handful of members in both the house and senate talking about the likely hood that that will in fact happen. the highest earners will pay more. that would likely be the last piece of the puzzle in a negotiation. i'm hearing from people in both sides say expect this to keep going and a likelihood if a deal is achievable it will happen...
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>> it definitely has changed boehner's plans. i think originally eric cantore was his heir apparent. he was almost pushing john boehner to retire. shortly after eric cantor lost his seat in his district, john boehner said, hey, i'm here to stay. this this only thing i think this does is solidify the floor for the next 40 days. this could go towards trying to ensure that they shore up gop loyalty, demonstrating that they'll keep the party line and maintain party status quo, or they can buck the gop. mostly the noisiest among them and try to do what's best for moving the country forward. and i don't know that any of them have that appetite to do that. >> angela, you tumpd on something which i totally agree with, which is the race for number three and that's where they want to have some red staip state representation wi. obama won that district in 2008. are you surprised that a democrat strategist some someone like roskam can actually compete? >> i am not surprised. i know he's a suburb of chicago scarce the mess out of the folks th
>> it definitely has changed boehner's plans. i think originally eric cantore was his heir apparent. he was almost pushing john boehner to retire. shortly after eric cantor lost his seat in his district, john boehner said, hey, i'm here to stay. this this only thing i think this does is solidify the floor for the next 40 days. this could go towards trying to ensure that they shore up gop loyalty, demonstrating that they'll keep the party line and maintain party status quo, or they can...
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boehner -- i heard boehner will not even run for reelection as speaker. that i don't buy. does boehner end up staying longer now that he wanted to? >> i think he'll stay, especially if republicans win the senate, which i think they will. this will be good for the republican party. this increases the chance of a wave election in november, the energy it produces will be strong and the candidates are a good field of candidates. i think this is a good day for the republicans. if republicans win the majority in the senate, it hard to believe boehner doesn't -- with a republican majority. i think a very well respected conservative from texas -- there's a group of very influential conservatives in the house, paul ryan, who will become chairman of ways and means, tom price, who will become chairman of the budget committee, economic conservative, tea party friend lifriendly but also can work the system. >> those are the new young gun, right? >> it's interesting, you didn't mention kevin mccarthy. he doesn't move up, does he? >> no. everybody likes him and he's a good whip but -- >>
boehner -- i heard boehner will not even run for reelection as speaker. that i don't buy. does boehner end up staying longer now that he wanted to? >> i think he'll stay, especially if republicans win the senate, which i think they will. this will be good for the republican party. this increases the chance of a wave election in november, the energy it produces will be strong and the candidates are a good field of candidates. i think this is a good day for the republicans. if republicans...
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there is some tension between -- i mean, we've seen john boehner seems mor willing to make deal. he's been pulled back by members of his caucus, we've heard that eric cantor is one of those leaders. we've heard that harry reid might be the problem. >> does congress exist for a purpose other than being -- >> period, full stop -- >> other than being a puppet theater for a presidential campaign. when you look at congress these days, there's no way to divorce the fact of what is going on with the fact we'll be voting in november. so it's hard to take any of this stuff seriously except looking at it as political theater. >> i would agree with you, except that the republicans seem to be much more lockstep marring towards victory, using the same message points. nancy pelosi is proposing an alternative plan to extendsing the bush tax cuts, which is basically extending them for people making a million or less. sam, when i saw that, i thought these are different objectives here. nancy pelosi i think is thinking about nancy pelosi and how democrats and the messaging they want to spend. it's
there is some tension between -- i mean, we've seen john boehner seems mor willing to make deal. he's been pulled back by members of his caucus, we've heard that eric cantor is one of those leaders. we've heard that harry reid might be the problem. >> does congress exist for a purpose other than being -- >> period, full stop -- >> other than being a puppet theater for a presidential campaign. when you look at congress these days, there's no way to divorce the fact of what is...
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john boehner also needs to go. >> i think boehner needs to go and he needs to step down and the conservatives in the house caucas need to find the courage to run somebody and nominate a strong conservative. they showed it is possible to take down goliath and they need to do the same in washington d.c. >> meanwhile, eric cantor's poll stirrer is blaming democrats like former congressman ben jones for cantor's surprising loss this week. in an interview with variety jones says he doesn't know and doesn't care who gets the credit for cantor's defeat but he will gladly take some of it. jones ran against him in 2002 and lost. >> they blocked elizabeth warren's bill that would have let them finance student loans at lower rates. now she is going to side with his competition. >> i plan to fight back on this and i hope everybody else does too. one way i'm going to start fighting back is i'm going to go down to kentucky and i'm going to campaign for allison grimes. she is tough. she is fiesty. she endorsed the student loan bill. >> montana is the only state that doesn't have some kind of texting and dri
john boehner also needs to go. >> i think boehner needs to go and he needs to step down and the conservatives in the house caucas need to find the courage to run somebody and nominate a strong conservative. they showed it is possible to take down goliath and they need to do the same in washington d.c. >> meanwhile, eric cantor's poll stirrer is blaming democrats like former congressman ben jones for cantor's surprising loss this week. in an interview with variety jones says he...
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good reports by both of you. >>> up next, caught on tape, house speaker john boehner. this is light hearted. didn't have jobs on the brain in minutes before the speech. we'll tell you what they were talking about. it wasn't the hot somebody issue of the 9.1 unemployment rate. 8gú >>> back to "hardball." in the side show, first up, making up for lost time. as vice president joe biden joined speaker boehner in anticipation of the president's speech last night, it wasn't all business they had to catch up onle let's listen. >> we've got a heck of a lot of work. >> in august. i was at a dismal -- golf club in sand hills, nebraska. it's one of the hardest golf courses you'll ever see. seven birdies, five bogies. i shot two under. >> you're kidding me. >> the next day i go to sand hills, i shoot 86. one day i play great, the next day i play awful. this is the round of the decade. >> a couple of scratch golfers. i've never seen these men in such an animated conversation. golf seems to be their common ground. >>> that's "hardball" for now. coming up next "your businesses" with
good reports by both of you. >>> up next, caught on tape, house speaker john boehner. this is light hearted. didn't have jobs on the brain in minutes before the speech. we'll tell you what they were talking about. it wasn't the hot somebody issue of the 9.1 unemployment rate. 8gú >>> back to "hardball." in the side show, first up, making up for lost time. as vice president joe biden joined speaker boehner in anticipation of the president's speech last night, it...
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boehner yourself and mr. o'connell? otherwise, why does he go forward that otherwise 48 hours later reject? >> i was very clear with the senate in expressing my reservations and what harry reid wanted to do and said that our members feel, as do most americans, as does the president feel 60 days is not acceptable. come on, how can families plan on a two-month basis as to what their tax liabilities is going to be as to how to deal with any of their expenses? that's what we're saying. we expressed that view. now it's up to harry reid because he provided the one opportunity for the vote in the senate that is an unacceptable policy. we're saying let's be reasonable. sit down and find out where we can resolve the differences and they're narrow. let's get the job done. >> i just want to highlight again, because i know that there are differences between harry reid and eric cantor and john boehner but seems like there are differences between republicans and democrats. let me read. is scott brown celebrity elected in a special el
boehner yourself and mr. o'connell? otherwise, why does he go forward that otherwise 48 hours later reject? >> i was very clear with the senate in expressing my reservations and what harry reid wanted to do and said that our members feel, as do most americans, as does the president feel 60 days is not acceptable. come on, how can families plan on a two-month basis as to what their tax liabilities is going to be as to how to deal with any of their expenses? that's what we're saying. we...
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give up your craziness, john boehner. see if can you find, i don't know, 50 not insane republicans and then we can give you the resting democratic votes if you get the crazy ideas off the table. >> that suggests this is not just about painting the world purple and making things friendly and washington discourse more civil. it's a suggestion that reason we need bipartisanship is because otherwise we can't govern. that the state actually shuts down, that this is the ultimate dysfunction. >> there comes a moment where the thing you want to do, nafta is a great example, trade deals are a great example. the thing you want to do, the support for it is in the middle. you won't be able to get liberals on it. you won't be able to get others on it. so you have to know how you deal with the middle. the house republicans and at this stage of the game even the senate republicans have no more playbook that tells them how to deal with the middle. bob dole is the last republican leader in the congress who knew how to deal with the middle
give up your craziness, john boehner. see if can you find, i don't know, 50 not insane republicans and then we can give you the resting democratic votes if you get the crazy ideas off the table. >> that suggests this is not just about painting the world purple and making things friendly and washington discourse more civil. it's a suggestion that reason we need bipartisanship is because otherwise we can't govern. that the state actually shuts down, that this is the ultimate dysfunction....
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john boehner, who has yet to approve the request tweeted him back saying why not true thursday? it's a delicious bit of gamesmanship. we'll get to it at the top of the program. >>> also, democrats may not like any of the republican candidates, but chances are they reserve a particular fear and loathing for rick perry. yes, his positionser extreme, lightyear from the mainstream, but the real worry for the ds? he could win. >>> plus how serious really are republicans like eric cantor about holding up fema spending for hurricane irene until other programs can be cut to pay for it? that's what eric cantor is insisting on, but that's not how he felt 7 years ago. >>> and if you're worked about the cost in the wars in iraq and afghanistan, this won't help. a congressionally commission reports that as much as $60 billion has been lost to waste and fraud in two wars. how will that play? an age of record deficits? >>> finally one republican can't decide, should i get in or not. >>> and here's a hint -- it's not sarah palin. check that out in "the sideshow." >>> we start with the president
john boehner, who has yet to approve the request tweeted him back saying why not true thursday? it's a delicious bit of gamesmanship. we'll get to it at the top of the program. >>> also, democrats may not like any of the republican candidates, but chances are they reserve a particular fear and loathing for rick perry. yes, his positionser extreme, lightyear from the mainstream, but the real worry for the ds? he could win. >>> plus how serious really are republicans like eric...
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john boehner is not a leader. he's being led, and he may take all of us down with him. >> plan b. >> plan b. >> plan b. >> republicans have made every effort to avoid the situation we find ourselves in. >> they keep on finding ways to say no as opposed to finding ways to say yes. >> he goes up to 400. this deal should be done. >> it's very hard for them to say yes to me. >> the decision is for the white house and the senate democrats to come join us so we can avoid the tax hike on american people. >> it is very hard for them to say yes to me. >> they know it is a nonstarter. >> they're thinking about voting for raising taxes, at least on folks over $1 million, which they say they don't want 20 do, but they're going to reject spending cuts that they say they do want to do. that defies logic. >> guess what? the ceos, they're all on his side. >> we should be able to get something done. >> thank you. ♪ >>> it is 12 days to the fiscal cliff, five days to christmas, and one day before some people believe the world wil
john boehner is not a leader. he's being led, and he may take all of us down with him. >> plan b. >> plan b. >> plan b. >> republicans have made every effort to avoid the situation we find ourselves in. >> they keep on finding ways to say no as opposed to finding ways to say yes. >> he goes up to 400. this deal should be done. >> it's very hard for them to say yes to me. >> the decision is for the white house and the senate democrats to come join...
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or in the words of speaker john boehner, it's an empty easter egg. yes, these are the divergent views, as the president wraps up a two-day three-city speaking tour, delivering an impassioned speech in jacksonville just a short time ago. let's get more americans back on the job that will be good for home ownership. that will be good for education. that is the smart thing to do. let's get past politics and do it. >>> the president who's traveled from illinois the midwest, has used plain and direct language. he wants the sideshow in want to cease, and he wants good job and a better bargain. he even invoked abraham linking who still managed to focus on what makes a country strong. yet dplt middle he wail still thinking how do we build that railroad. how do we widen our canals and ports? there are some things we can only do together. >> rebuilding our infrastructure is only one of them. >> he's not only advancing his agenda, just over 1200 days. he's also preparing for major budget fights that have dogged his tenure. >> i'm not going to let gridlock or in
or in the words of speaker john boehner, it's an empty easter egg. yes, these are the divergent views, as the president wraps up a two-day three-city speaking tour, delivering an impassioned speech in jacksonville just a short time ago. let's get more americans back on the job that will be good for home ownership. that will be good for education. that is the smart thing to do. let's get past politics and do it. >>> the president who's traveled from illinois the midwest, has used plain...
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the boehner bill. here's what he said last night. >> we will not solve this humanitarian crisis unless and until we end president obama's amnesty. the cause of the humanitarian crisis we're ficing right now is president obama's laws. >> congressman doggett, i have to ask, who is the real speaker of the house? boehner or senator cruz? >> well, you have to wonder. it's like the government shutdown all over again. he was here having a little pootsa party with some of these far right members of the house and the not so right, insisting that they be against everything. i think what he just said, that you brought up, reverend al, is so important. i have met with these dreamers. these young people who have so much potential for our country. and he wants to put an end to their presence and their opportunity to contribute to our country in san antonio and austin, all over the country, these young people have so much potential. and then again, as krystal said as far as coming to the middle, you know, even the ch
the boehner bill. here's what he said last night. >> we will not solve this humanitarian crisis unless and until we end president obama's amnesty. the cause of the humanitarian crisis we're ficing right now is president obama's laws. >> congressman doggett, i have to ask, who is the real speaker of the house? boehner or senator cruz? >> well, you have to wonder. it's like the government shutdown all over again. he was here having a little pootsa party with some of these far...
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what is john boehner doing? well, he's treating this like a damn game. >> our members do not want to just punt and do a two-month short-term fix where we have to come back and do this again. >> did he say punt? okay. let's play football, speaker boehner. what the hell? 89. that's the key number. this is how many senators have voted for the two-month extension. all democrats. 50. i guess you could say 39 turncoats. decided to go with that socialist communist marcus pinkco in the white house and say, let's go another two months. 39 republicans. they want you to punt. that's what you want you to do, mr. boehner. they want you to punt. when you punt in football, you get the ball back. you're going to have your chance, mr. boehner, after the new year in the next 60 days to make your case to the american people that these 39 people are wrong on your side. and you've got a better plan. but instead, you are stuck in this tea party philosophy. they've got you in the huddle in this game. if you want to play a game. and th
what is john boehner doing? well, he's treating this like a damn game. >> our members do not want to just punt and do a two-month short-term fix where we have to come back and do this again. >> did he say punt? okay. let's play football, speaker boehner. what the hell? 89. that's the key number. this is how many senators have voted for the two-month extension. all democrats. 50. i guess you could say 39 turncoats. decided to go with that socialist communist marcus pinkco in the...
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but boehner was at a million. boehner went down 550,000. so it's according to whether you want to count from the top down or the bottom up. both sides gave and i think the other side gave a little more. but governor, when it comes down to the debt ceiling that the chairman just referred to, president gave a warning to republicans. watch this. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up through the laws that they passed. let me repeat. we can't not pay bills that we've already incured. >> sounds like he's pretty strong and stern on that. what dooungs, governor? >> he is and he ought to be. the last time, it was an international disgrace, not just a national disgrace, but an international disgrace. we shouldn't play politics with that. we owe this money. we've got to pay it. we've got o to have the funds to pay it. i think the sequester comes up in two months, probably a week or two before the debt ceiling. we're going to have to have some resolution of the broad
but boehner was at a million. boehner went down 550,000. so it's according to whether you want to count from the top down or the bottom up. both sides gave and i think the other side gave a little more. but governor, when it comes down to the debt ceiling that the chairman just referred to, president gave a warning to republicans. watch this. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up through the laws that...
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boehner was just not being honest. he got his hat handed to him by a small minority in his own party. >> sounds like they would have better luck drafting for a time machine to go back to the 1950s. bob, i want to talk about speaker boehner. the senate weren't going to pass this bill ever. they already had the symbolic vote on the american balance act. how long do we have to continue to watch the political posturing without seeing anything definitive getting done? >> boehner is going to face a big decision assuming a compromise can come out of the senate. it will go back to the house. they'll have to decide whether to allow a vote. the whole blame for default will fall on the republican party. joe is right about what happened today. if you listen to boehner, and i guess you'll play the speech, it's lie after lie. there is nothing about jobs in this bill. he's not the president who said no. john boehner walked away from the talks. these folks are reaganites in name only. ronald reagan raise the debt limit 18, 19 times. i
boehner was just not being honest. he got his hat handed to him by a small minority in his own party. >> sounds like they would have better luck drafting for a time machine to go back to the 1950s. bob, i want to talk about speaker boehner. the senate weren't going to pass this bill ever. they already had the symbolic vote on the american balance act. how long do we have to continue to watch the political posturing without seeing anything definitive getting done? >> boehner is going...
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boehner's proposed plan will come through the house? will be voted on and be a success through the house? >> i don't know. i give the speaker a lot of credit for continuing to try to craft something, put some solution together, but to me, we can do better, but it is just not good enough and we can do better. >> will you vote for it? >> no, i can't, martin. what i voted for was what ivo voted for last week. the house passed a historic piece of legislation that cut spending and would get us toward a balanced budget amendment which with republicans and democrats in some form support. that is what -- go ahead. >> mr. walsh, we can add your name then to the five republicans who have already said they won't vote, and that means that we are down to what, boehner can only afford to lose 22, so that's down to what? how's your math? >> i was never a strong math student, martin. so i'm not a head counter, but all i know is that we can do better, and we have to do better. and if it means that we go a day or two or three beyond august 2nd to get thi
boehner's proposed plan will come through the house? will be voted on and be a success through the house? >> i don't know. i give the speaker a lot of credit for continuing to try to craft something, put some solution together, but to me, we can do better, but it is just not good enough and we can do better. >> will you vote for it? >> no, i can't, martin. what i voted for was what ivo voted for last week. the house passed a historic piece of legislation that cut spending and...
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how does he get boehner -- >> good start, go to cantor's district then boehner's districtened and so take it -- he says he'd going to take it be to every corner of the country. >> what we're going to do for a small educational role here, keep doing what we're doing on the lower screen. continuing to show the bridges in this bridges. in this case, 90-some bridges that need repaired. we'll do the same thing on tuesday. the president isn't doing this. doing more his job than oushgs but by the way, here's congressman cantor's own reaction to the president's jobs speech last night. listen with luke russert at nbc. >> i think there's a lot in this speech that we can actually begin to work on together. you know, tax relief, suggestions we ought to streamline, the process of structural spending suggesting we ought to reform the unemployment benefits in this country. what i did take exception to was the all or nothing approach that president took. he continued to say pass this package, there's nothing controversial in this package. anybody that doesn't embrace this, he's going to taking it to
how does he get boehner -- >> good start, go to cantor's district then boehner's districtened and so take it -- he says he'd going to take it be to every corner of the country. >> what we're going to do for a small educational role here, keep doing what we're doing on the lower screen. continuing to show the bridges in this bridges. in this case, 90-some bridges that need repaired. we'll do the same thing on tuesday. the president isn't doing this. doing more his job than oushgs but...